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		<title>By: dental implants in Columbia, SC</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-107322</link>
		<dc:creator>dental implants in Columbia, SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed a very nice post. I am also associated with dentist in Columbia, SC, dental implants in Columbia, SC, I like to read new and fresh posts on this subject and I am your regular post reader. Thanks for writing such a good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed a very nice post. I am also associated with dentist in Columbia, SC, dental implants in Columbia, SC, I like to read new and fresh posts on this subject and I am your regular post reader. Thanks for writing such a good post.</p>
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		<title>By: dental implants in Columbia, SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>dental implants in Columbia, SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed a nice post. We are The Dental Team, based in Columbia, SC and ready to give you a fabulous, I like to read your such a good post, Thanks for writing this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed a nice post. We are The Dental Team, based in Columbia, SC and ready to give you a fabulous, I like to read your such a good post, Thanks for writing this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Marti Settle</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-43030</link>
		<dc:creator>Marti Settle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I am seriously considering moving to Costa Rica. This is the first time in my life that I&#039;ve been ashamed to be an American. Barack Obama has driven us into fascism faster than we could draw three breaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I am seriously considering moving to Costa Rica. This is the first time in my life that I&#8217;ve been ashamed to be an American. Barack Obama has driven us into fascism faster than we could draw three breaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Alan</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-43021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of these comments are forgetting to take into account the most important thing about medical care.  RESULTS.  I see no hard data in any of the discussions above that shows that technical procedures done in these &quot;medical tourism&quot; countries is on par with what most Americans take for granted.  I still believe that the technical expertise offered in the US is unmatched anywhere in the world. Remember, we are not talking about having a plumber fix your sink or an automobile mechanic fixing your car.  We are talking about your body.  You may only get one chance to have a procedure done correctly and if it is not done correctly there may be life changing consequences for the remainder of your life.  What happens when one of these procedures is botched and you are back in the US and realize something is very wrong.  I can garauntee that you will come running to your US physican and will not be running back to Guatemala to the doctor who pocketed your cash.  You are now the unlucky US physicans problem.  I have seen first hand many terrible results form surgeries done in foreign countries for a &quot;cheap price&quot;.  Infections, early failures, life threatening complications that have crippled many for the rest of their lives.  I would reccommend that anyone strongly take these factors into consideration before thinking it is a great idea to travel to a foreign country to save a few dollars for their medical care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of these comments are forgetting to take into account the most important thing about medical care.  RESULTS.  I see no hard data in any of the discussions above that shows that technical procedures done in these &#8220;medical tourism&#8221; countries is on par with what most Americans take for granted.  I still believe that the technical expertise offered in the US is unmatched anywhere in the world. Remember, we are not talking about having a plumber fix your sink or an automobile mechanic fixing your car.  We are talking about your body.  You may only get one chance to have a procedure done correctly and if it is not done correctly there may be life changing consequences for the remainder of your life.  What happens when one of these procedures is botched and you are back in the US and realize something is very wrong.  I can garauntee that you will come running to your US physican and will not be running back to Guatemala to the doctor who pocketed your cash.  You are now the unlucky US physicans problem.  I have seen first hand many terrible results form surgeries done in foreign countries for a &#8220;cheap price&#8221;.  Infections, early failures, life threatening complications that have crippled many for the rest of their lives.  I would reccommend that anyone strongly take these factors into consideration before thinking it is a great idea to travel to a foreign country to save a few dollars for their medical care.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Emerick</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42983</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Emerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I’m doing a lot of consulting around medical travel these days. You will be happy to know that US hospitals are starting  to do the same thing. This is something all must support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I’m doing a lot of consulting around medical travel these days. You will be happy to know that US hospitals are starting  to do the same thing. This is something all must support.</p>
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		<title>By: Desmond Joiner</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42978</link>
		<dc:creator>Desmond Joiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medical Tourism can be to the Healthcare industry, what Foreign Automobiles were to the Auto Industry.  Better value overseas will attract consumers.  A bloated American Health Industry will not change, and be chained to the old way of business.  Marketshare will be lost in our Healthcare system, and jobs will be cut. The Hospitals will go to the government for help...it will bail them out...then take 60% ownership.  Hmmm...sounds familiar. Some lessons are hard to learn, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical Tourism can be to the Healthcare industry, what Foreign Automobiles were to the Auto Industry.  Better value overseas will attract consumers.  A bloated American Health Industry will not change, and be chained to the old way of business.  Marketshare will be lost in our Healthcare system, and jobs will be cut. The Hospitals will go to the government for help&#8230;it will bail them out&#8230;then take 60% ownership.  Hmmm&#8230;sounds familiar. Some lessons are hard to learn, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Brison Lee</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42971</link>
		<dc:creator>Brison Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medical Tourism is ideal for specific, scheduled medical and dental procedures. 

To address John R. Graham&#039;s comment, above, about an adoption of medical tourism in the employee group benefits market:

Insured Medical Tourism benefits are offered by Plan Benefit Services, Inc, of Columbia, SC, the innovator in creating medical tourism programs for the self-funded employer market.  These specialists in group insurance developed an immensely cost-effective International PPO plan available to self-funded employers throughout the US.  Their International PPO plans help employers mitigate their extraordinary medical expenses and present impressive financial rewards and savings for the employees.  

The insured offshore healthcare benefits amount to $Billions in cumulative savings for consumers, employees, employers, insurance carriers, and the US medical community (patient payment defaults). 

Global health travel will never replace regional hospitals and providers, but it offers much needed options as well as distinct financial and treatment advantages.

US dental insurance coverage continues to lag behind rising dental care cost, still capping benefits at $1,000 to a max of $2,000 annually.  Accredited dentist in Costa Rica offer affordable solutions.  Patients requiring extensive dental procedures (caps, implants, etc) can save thousands of dollars (even calculating travel expenses) and enjoy a nice vacation, too.  Yet, these same globe-trotting patients are not expected to forgo their regional dentist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medical Tourism is ideal for specific, scheduled medical and dental procedures. </p>
<p>To address John R. Graham&#8217;s comment, above, about an adoption of medical tourism in the employee group benefits market:</p>
<p>Insured Medical Tourism benefits are offered by Plan Benefit Services, Inc, of Columbia, SC, the innovator in creating medical tourism programs for the self-funded employer market.  These specialists in group insurance developed an immensely cost-effective International PPO plan available to self-funded employers throughout the US.  Their International PPO plans help employers mitigate their extraordinary medical expenses and present impressive financial rewards and savings for the employees.  </p>
<p>The insured offshore healthcare benefits amount to $Billions in cumulative savings for consumers, employees, employers, insurance carriers, and the US medical community (patient payment defaults). </p>
<p>Global health travel will never replace regional hospitals and providers, but it offers much needed options as well as distinct financial and treatment advantages.</p>
<p>US dental insurance coverage continues to lag behind rising dental care cost, still capping benefits at $1,000 to a max of $2,000 annually.  Accredited dentist in Costa Rica offer affordable solutions.  Patients requiring extensive dental procedures (caps, implants, etc) can save thousands of dollars (even calculating travel expenses) and enjoy a nice vacation, too.  Yet, these same globe-trotting patients are not expected to forgo their regional dentist.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Green</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42970</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you are right.  It will NEVER happen here. Drug and insurance companies have paid too much lobby-money for a trillion dollar unfunded Medicare part D and Advantage Plan system to ever get real competition.  The objective is to keep over 3,000 part D plans and Advantage plans to confuse seniors.
 
We need to simplify and standardize all senior plans.  We also need to regain control of excess charges relating to part B Medicare.  Balanced Billing has silently been circumvented and all plan Fs are not really valid anymore because providers are [again] allowed to charge above 15 % of Medicare allowable amount.
 
We [senior advocates] are losing ground and senior citizens are again being pushed deeper and deeper into the dark black hole of financial and POLITICAL greed.  Senior citizens that have been paying into a program since 1966 are being tricked by their government and insurance and drug companies into signing themselves OUT of this program that they have paid 7 1/2 % of every dollar they have ever earned into.
 
Some Medicare Advantage plan insurance companies receive over $15,000 a year of taxpayer dollars for every senior they can enroll and then provide medical care based on rationing.  Sales people promise everything including a trip to Disney if they will join and then the seniors are denied test and care.  You tell me if you think this is REALLY the AMERICAN WAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you are right.  It will NEVER happen here. Drug and insurance companies have paid too much lobby-money for a trillion dollar unfunded Medicare part D and Advantage Plan system to ever get real competition.  The objective is to keep over 3,000 part D plans and Advantage plans to confuse seniors.</p>
<p>We need to simplify and standardize all senior plans.  We also need to regain control of excess charges relating to part B Medicare.  Balanced Billing has silently been circumvented and all plan Fs are not really valid anymore because providers are [again] allowed to charge above 15 % of Medicare allowable amount.</p>
<p>We [senior advocates] are losing ground and senior citizens are again being pushed deeper and deeper into the dark black hole of financial and POLITICAL greed.  Senior citizens that have been paying into a program since 1966 are being tricked by their government and insurance and drug companies into signing themselves OUT of this program that they have paid 7 1/2 % of every dollar they have ever earned into.</p>
<p>Some Medicare Advantage plan insurance companies receive over $15,000 a year of taxpayer dollars for every senior they can enroll and then provide medical care based on rationing.  Sales people promise everything including a trip to Disney if they will join and then the seniors are denied test and care.  You tell me if you think this is REALLY the AMERICAN WAY.</p>
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		<title>By: John R. Graham</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42965</link>
		<dc:creator>John R. Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Greiner, let&#039;s go into business together.  The U.S. Navy has hospital ships and I&#039;d bet they auction off the surplus, aged ones periodically!  Dave Racer&#039;s idea is also good.  It&#039;s clear from the discussion that regulatory arbitrage will be a key element of innovation in health.

&quot;Bob&quot; is quite right that the pre-payed care, employer-based U.S. model of health insurance inhibits the adoption of effective medical tourism.  However, an innovative insurer could overcome this, even in the employer-based market, by abandoning its network contracts and simply maintaining a list of credentialled facilities.  (I&#039;ll leave unresolved the question of who does the credentialling for now.)  The insurer would publish a schedule of allowances, from which it would &quot;split the difference&quot; with the patient, whom it would free to choose the most appropriate provider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Greiner, let&#8217;s go into business together.  The U.S. Navy has hospital ships and I&#8217;d bet they auction off the surplus, aged ones periodically!  Dave Racer&#8217;s idea is also good.  It&#8217;s clear from the discussion that regulatory arbitrage will be a key element of innovation in health.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bob&#8221; is quite right that the pre-payed care, employer-based U.S. model of health insurance inhibits the adoption of effective medical tourism.  However, an innovative insurer could overcome this, even in the employer-based market, by abandoning its network contracts and simply maintaining a list of credentialled facilities.  (I&#8217;ll leave unresolved the question of who does the credentialling for now.)  The insurer would publish a schedule of allowances, from which it would &#8220;split the difference&#8221; with the patient, whom it would free to choose the most appropriate provider.</p>
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		<title>By: John Casillas</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/avoiding-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-42960</link>
		<dc:creator>John Casillas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
Great insight. I shared with all my friends on facebook. Starting a national tour in August. 
See: http://www.mbproject.org/tour.expedition.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Great insight. I shared with all my friends on facebook. Starting a national tour in August.<br />
See: <a href="http://www.mbproject.org/tour.expedition.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mbproject.org/tour.expedition.php</a></p>
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