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	<title>Comments on: Congress Declares War on HSAs</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Joseph</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-88341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very upset to see the the article on Health Saving Accounts (HSAs). Now I cannot take benefit of buying medicines over the counter with the HSA funds. I really dont want to be deprived of the benefit. The HSAs plan really helps in limiting the out-of-pocket exposure on individual and family health expenses. The Congress should take back the decision to ignore the cost reductions from HSA eligible plans. It will be in favor of small and medium business owners and individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very upset to see the the article on Health Saving Accounts (HSAs). Now I cannot take benefit of buying medicines over the counter with the HSA funds. I really dont want to be deprived of the benefit. The HSAs plan really helps in limiting the out-of-pocket exposure on individual and family health expenses. The Congress should take back the decision to ignore the cost reductions from HSA eligible plans. It will be in favor of small and medium business owners and individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe O.</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-53223</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see now that IRS publication 969 says HSA&#039;s CAN expense non-prescription drugs and/or medicine. IRS 502 must apply to only straight deductions on the 1040. Ignore my post above!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see now that IRS publication 969 says HSA&#8217;s CAN expense non-prescription drugs and/or medicine. IRS 502 must apply to only straight deductions on the 1040. Ignore my post above!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe O.</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-53218</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the IRS 502 instructions for HSA&#039;s on their website, you&#039;ll see that they have gone ahead and made non-prescription drugs and/or medicines ineligble!  Is it something they did in anticipation of the health bill&#039;s passage and is in error, or did they just go ahead and change the rules?  I&#039;m a little frightened of the IRS as we all are and don&#039;t want to ask.  Does anyone out there know what&#039;s going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the IRS 502 instructions for HSA&#8217;s on their website, you&#8217;ll see that they have gone ahead and made non-prescription drugs and/or medicines ineligble!  Is it something they did in anticipation of the health bill&#8217;s passage and is in error, or did they just go ahead and change the rules?  I&#8217;m a little frightened of the IRS as we all are and don&#8217;t want to ask.  Does anyone out there know what&#8217;s going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Taxing Health Insurance &#124; John Goodman &#124; NCPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxing Health Insurance &#124; John Goodman &#124; NCPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (individuals) and $4,000 (families), as opposed to the current HSA limits of $5,950 and $11,900. As Ron Bachman explained, this would greatly restrict the types of consumer-directed health plans people have access to. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (individuals) and $4,000 (families), as opposed to the current HSA limits of $5,950 and $11,900. As Ron Bachman explained, this would greatly restrict the types of consumer-directed health plans people have access to. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Bachman</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-51673</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Bachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all who took the time to comment on the concerns raised and information presented in the blog.

Peter Zorin provides examples of the misunderstandings of those who only seem to have a &quot;No, because..&quot; attitude.  If he looked at the facts, (1) individuals better control utilization and to some degree they shop for costs.  The history is lower costs for Rx as individuals move to generics and use fewer prescriptions.   They don&#039;t suffer any healthcare loss, they simply better utilize services that are currently use to excess as they appear free or have a good ROI ($10 copay for a $120 medication).  Second, lower income purchasers (&lt;$25k) are saving funds nearly as well as higher income, especially if employers make HSA contributions.  If products allowed HSA rewards from insurers for fully insured plans, the savings for all would be even more enhanced. 

HSA eligible plans are mainly about increasing personal responsibility and changing health and healthcare purchasing behaviors.  If we don&#039;t focus on behavior change, we will never have a change to control the growth of healthcare costs.  It is a major opportunity to increase the focus on health rather than sickness.  

Sorry for the inconvenient truths, Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all who took the time to comment on the concerns raised and information presented in the blog.</p>
<p>Peter Zorin provides examples of the misunderstandings of those who only seem to have a &#8220;No, because..&#8221; attitude.  If he looked at the facts, (1) individuals better control utilization and to some degree they shop for costs.  The history is lower costs for Rx as individuals move to generics and use fewer prescriptions.   They don&#8217;t suffer any healthcare loss, they simply better utilize services that are currently use to excess as they appear free or have a good ROI ($10 copay for a $120 medication).  Second, lower income purchasers (&lt;$25k) are saving funds nearly as well as higher income, especially if employers make HSA contributions.  If products allowed HSA rewards from insurers for fully insured plans, the savings for all would be even more enhanced. </p>
<p>HSA eligible plans are mainly about increasing personal responsibility and changing health and healthcare purchasing behaviors.  If we don&#039;t focus on behavior change, we will never have a change to control the growth of healthcare costs.  It is a major opportunity to increase the focus on health rather than sickness.  </p>
<p>Sorry for the inconvenient truths, Peter.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about HRA accounts? Would they bve affected to wit hthe new healthcare insurance changes? Presently, as a township, we offer HRA type of health insurance plans to employees. We are up for renewal, so this is an important consideration for us, who use tax payer dollars to support this  benefit package.

Any and all comments are welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about HRA accounts? Would they bve affected to wit hthe new healthcare insurance changes? Presently, as a township, we offer HRA type of health insurance plans to employees. We are up for renewal, so this is an important consideration for us, who use tax payer dollars to support this  benefit package.</p>
<p>Any and all comments are welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Ingles</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-51445</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: My HSA was held as an interest-bearing savings account in a credit union.  The stock market was not an issue.

Most HSA money is used for co-pays and prescriptions, where consumer awareness is actually useful.  The idea was never to encourage people to price shop for a trauma center or brain surgeon.  

I think HSAs, pro or con, are the least of our concerns right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: My HSA was held as an interest-bearing savings account in a credit union.  The stock market was not an issue.</p>
<p>Most HSA money is used for co-pays and prescriptions, where consumer awareness is actually useful.  The idea was never to encourage people to price shop for a trauma center or brain surgeon.  </p>
<p>I think HSAs, pro or con, are the least of our concerns right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Levit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Levit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter:
I see the HSA as a way to increase one&#039;s deductible to save on premiums.
Isn&#039;t it beneficial to reward the low users of health care with lower premiums and a fund to pay for their exposures?
Don Levit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:<br />
I see the HSA as a way to increase one&#8217;s deductible to save on premiums.<br />
Isn&#8217;t it beneficial to reward the low users of health care with lower premiums and a fund to pay for their exposures?<br />
Don Levit</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Zorin</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-51407</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Zorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Feldman, 

I appreciate your perspective and might go along with it. However, most of health concerns requiring medical attention aren&#039;t allowing time for shopping - it isn&#039;t a car repair. The concept you have in mind, perhaps, would work and probably worked in the past for family practitioners. However, nowadays, most of them are associated with big medical practices, which, so far, do not post any price lists. 

In addition, how a simple consumer would know what procedure to inquire about? Also, should one select major procedure based on its price or qualification of specialist and his staff that would perform it?

Should doctors earn salary based on their qualifications or be businessmen and investors as their main life goal?

What are the primary reasons for high cost of our medical care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Feldman, </p>
<p>I appreciate your perspective and might go along with it. However, most of health concerns requiring medical attention aren&#8217;t allowing time for shopping &#8211; it isn&#8217;t a car repair. The concept you have in mind, perhaps, would work and probably worked in the past for family practitioners. However, nowadays, most of them are associated with big medical practices, which, so far, do not post any price lists. </p>
<p>In addition, how a simple consumer would know what procedure to inquire about? Also, should one select major procedure based on its price or qualification of specialist and his staff that would perform it?</p>
<p>Should doctors earn salary based on their qualifications or be businessmen and investors as their main life goal?</p>
<p>What are the primary reasons for high cost of our medical care?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Feldman MD</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/congress-declares-war-on-hsas/comment-page-1/#comment-51404</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Feldman MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

If you can shop for an accountant, or a dentist, or....???, you may do the same for physicians. All you need to do is ask. Any practice will quote standard fees for visits and procedures.

Why do you want to entrust all your decisions to a 3rd party, especially a government whose payments don&#039;t cover expenses in many cases?

I suppose if you haven&#039;t had much contact with health care, centralized decisions make sense, but any practicing M.D. knows one size doesn&#039;t fit all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>If you can shop for an accountant, or a dentist, or&#8230;.???, you may do the same for physicians. All you need to do is ask. Any practice will quote standard fees for visits and procedures.</p>
<p>Why do you want to entrust all your decisions to a 3rd party, especially a government whose payments don&#8217;t cover expenses in many cases?</p>
<p>I suppose if you haven&#8217;t had much contact with health care, centralized decisions make sense, but any practicing M.D. knows one size doesn&#8217;t fit all.</p>
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