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		<title>By: Health Clinics in Colorado</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-30875</link>
		<dc:creator>Health Clinics in Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Health Clinics in Colorado&lt;/strong&gt; Once again an awesome post - problem is every time I read your blog more ideas are presented and I just can�t keep up with it!!! However don&#039;t for one moment stop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Health Clinics in Colorado</strong> Once again an awesome post &#8211; problem is every time I read your blog more ideas are presented and I just can�t keep up with it!!! However don&#39;t for one moment stop!</p>
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		<title>By: SCHIP Too Much? : Colorado Health Insurance Insider</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-12155</link>
		<dc:creator>SCHIP Too Much? : Colorado Health Insurance Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From the John Goodman Health Blog&#8230; Harvard economist David Cutler and MIT economist John Gruber find that for every additional $1 spent on Medicaid, private insurance spending contracts by 50¢ to 75¢. For SCHIP expansion, Gruber estimates the contraction is 60¢. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From the John Goodman Health Blog&#8230; Harvard economist David Cutler and MIT economist John Gruber find that for every additional $1 spent on Medicaid, private insurance spending contracts by 50¢ to 75¢. For SCHIP expansion, Gruber estimates the contraction is 60¢. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Beauchamp</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-7729</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Beauchamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any study done on this grossly mismanaged care market is not worth the paper it&#039;s written on. I believe our citizens, who earn the money and thus pay the cost, are the ones to decide what care is needed in consultation with their chosen health care professional! Why doesn&#039;t anyone want to talk about this huge market distortions created by married couples having their work product used to support duplicate insurance coverage? Make the exclusion available to all citizens seems to offer a simple way to address this distortion IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any study done on this grossly mismanaged care market is not worth the paper it&#8217;s written on. I believe our citizens, who earn the money and thus pay the cost, are the ones to decide what care is needed in consultation with their chosen health care professional! Why doesn&#8217;t anyone want to talk about this huge market distortions created by married couples having their work product used to support duplicate insurance coverage? Make the exclusion available to all citizens seems to offer a simple way to address this distortion IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Chittenden</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-7726</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Chittenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issue with expanding Medicaid for kids isn&#039;t that more are covered, but that with every new person added to Medicaid roles, there is less have access to care.  This is because the reality is Medicaid pays so poorly (frequently less than 1/3 of regular fees), that many clinics will not take new Medicaid patients.  Enrolling a thousand or ten million new kids only makes the line longer to get this charity care.  

  Many clinics appointment desks set limits on how many Medicaid patients they see during a month.  This is done to keep the cost of care reasonable for paying patients with and without insurance.  

At around 1/3 reimbursement of regular fees, one could get a much more beneficial level of coverage for those in need by allowing the unreimbursed cost of charity care to be tax deductible at full rates (or tax credits at Medicaid rates) by providers of such care.  Providers who currently provide little to no care for Medicaid would be falling all over themselves to provide enough care to make it so they paid no taxes.   Unlike government programs, such as system would be naturally self limiting since eventually providers would max out how much charity care they could provide and get tax benefits for, while still being reasonably profitable.  Such as system would also allow for the social marketplace to experiment with various options to promote wellness, preventive care, and other health care initiatives, many of whom are begrudgingly offered because they currently come with lots of managed care red tape and political strings. 

Of course, don&#039;t expect anything like this to ever happen because the political capital and credit for charity care would go to providers, not politicians...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue with expanding Medicaid for kids isn&#8217;t that more are covered, but that with every new person added to Medicaid roles, there is less have access to care.  This is because the reality is Medicaid pays so poorly (frequently less than 1/3 of regular fees), that many clinics will not take new Medicaid patients.  Enrolling a thousand or ten million new kids only makes the line longer to get this charity care.  </p>
<p>  Many clinics appointment desks set limits on how many Medicaid patients they see during a month.  This is done to keep the cost of care reasonable for paying patients with and without insurance.  </p>
<p>At around 1/3 reimbursement of regular fees, one could get a much more beneficial level of coverage for those in need by allowing the unreimbursed cost of charity care to be tax deductible at full rates (or tax credits at Medicaid rates) by providers of such care.  Providers who currently provide little to no care for Medicaid would be falling all over themselves to provide enough care to make it so they paid no taxes.   Unlike government programs, such as system would be naturally self limiting since eventually providers would max out how much charity care they could provide and get tax benefits for, while still being reasonably profitable.  Such as system would also allow for the social marketplace to experiment with various options to promote wellness, preventive care, and other health care initiatives, many of whom are begrudgingly offered because they currently come with lots of managed care red tape and political strings. </p>
<p>Of course, don&#8217;t expect anything like this to ever happen because the political capital and credit for charity care would go to providers, not politicians&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bob</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-7520</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

It&#039;s not access to care, it&#039;s a lack of responsible effectuation. It is available...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not access to care, it&#8217;s a lack of responsible effectuation. It is available&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Racer</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/covering-the-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-7519</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Racer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made my day, after reading the dreary WSJ stories again.

I have repeatedly asked Greg (my co-author) about this issue of the overall cost of care for children, vs those expense that really drive health care spending. He says that the actuaries have that information. It&#039;s sort a &quot;who&#039;s fooling whom&quot; thing. SCHIP makes for good headlines, but accomplishes nothing, save perhaps making a mother nervous when a Medicaid-paid doctor discovers some minor abnormality in little Johnny that triggers a regimen of unnecessary tests and prescriptions.

I&#039;ve begun using a balloon in my presentations, squeezing it this way and that until breaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made my day, after reading the dreary WSJ stories again.</p>
<p>I have repeatedly asked Greg (my co-author) about this issue of the overall cost of care for children, vs those expense that really drive health care spending. He says that the actuaries have that information. It&#8217;s sort a &#8220;who&#8217;s fooling whom&#8221; thing. SCHIP makes for good headlines, but accomplishes nothing, save perhaps making a mother nervous when a Medicaid-paid doctor discovers some minor abnormality in little Johnny that triggers a regimen of unnecessary tests and prescriptions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve begun using a balloon in my presentations, squeezing it this way and that until breaks.</p>
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