Second those of us on the “left” are not attacking doctors (providers), nor are we denying care for patients, the present system does enough of that itself.

Third- care is at present rationed and determined not by the patient nor by the physician but by the beaurucrats running insurance scams.

Fourth- It is common sense that if the number of un-insured is reduced then payments to hospitals to cover those uninsured costs would go down. Only conservatives would try to make an arguement out of this. They would rather hospitals recieve the same amount for doing less???? Hospitals re-gain most of their yearly un-insured losses and by providing adequate insurance this financial drain would be solved thereby saving money it plain common sense- something lacking from the conservative arguement.

Fifth- at present there is no competition among healthinsurance or pharma companies. The “free-market” has done nothing to control costs and to continue to claim that some vague distance in the future that there will all of a sudden be savings and cost controls is un-realistic. It hasn’t happened because there is no free-market…. again common sense will tell anyone that.