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		<title>By: James phillips</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-135637</link>
		<dc:creator>James phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the time for employer&#039;s to drop their coverage. Send all there employees to the exchange. Pay the $2000 and set up a premium only Health Reimbursement Arrangement (HRA) say $3000 per employee per year, save mass sums of dollars, save the time and headache of providing benefits, and define their future healthcare cost. 

This is the perfect time to get out of the business of providing benefits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the time for employer&#8217;s to drop their coverage. Send all there employees to the exchange. Pay the $2000 and set up a premium only Health Reimbursement Arrangement (HRA) say $3000 per employee per year, save mass sums of dollars, save the time and headache of providing benefits, and define their future healthcare cost. </p>
<p>This is the perfect time to get out of the business of providing benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanie</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133808</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the ACA impact how corporations should select health care options for 2013?  Is there anything we can do now for 2014, or do we just take the wait and see approach?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the ACA impact how corporations should select health care options for 2013?  Is there anything we can do now for 2014, or do we just take the wait and see approach?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Hertz</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133671</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Hertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that Obamacare may look like it was &#039;built to fail,&#039; but I do not think that was the case.

I think that the designers of Obamacare went into the 2008-2009 legislative process and did hope to come out with something like single payer.

But they found out they had no ability to raise taxes to single payer level -- i.e. about 14% of payroll -- and with the financial crisis at that time,  they were afraid to put the insurance companies out of business -- which single payer would surely bring about.

So, they designed a hybrid plan that uses private insurance companies and employer plans, but regulates and subsidizes and nudges and supervises and taxes just about everyone in the process.

When you look at the countries which actually have single payer plans, what these nations have in common are strong left-wing parties and strong unions. This is true in Germany, France, England, Canada, and Sweden to name a few.

Also, some countries have single payer because their private insurance system collapsed during war and depression. Japan is the most ironic of all -- their single payer plan was installed by American lawyers working for McArthur during our occupation.

I bring up this history to suggest that no matter how clever we think Obama is, he cannot bring about single payer on his own!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that Obamacare may look like it was &#8216;built to fail,&#8217; but I do not think that was the case.</p>
<p>I think that the designers of Obamacare went into the 2008-2009 legislative process and did hope to come out with something like single payer.</p>
<p>But they found out they had no ability to raise taxes to single payer level &#8212; i.e. about 14% of payroll &#8212; and with the financial crisis at that time,  they were afraid to put the insurance companies out of business &#8212; which single payer would surely bring about.</p>
<p>So, they designed a hybrid plan that uses private insurance companies and employer plans, but regulates and subsidizes and nudges and supervises and taxes just about everyone in the process.</p>
<p>When you look at the countries which actually have single payer plans, what these nations have in common are strong left-wing parties and strong unions. This is true in Germany, France, England, Canada, and Sweden to name a few.</p>
<p>Also, some countries have single payer because their private insurance system collapsed during war and depression. Japan is the most ironic of all &#8212; their single payer plan was installed by American lawyers working for McArthur during our occupation.</p>
<p>I bring up this history to suggest that no matter how clever we think Obama is, he cannot bring about single payer on his own!</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133636</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama never cared about Obamacare. It was a stepping stone. Take note of his speech  first in 2009 then to the AFL-CIO in 2003

Before election 2003:
re single payer: &quot;we may not get there immediately&quot;

2009:
&quot;I have not said I was a single payer supporter&quot;

Both speeches are on the same video, 2003 follows 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hsqzSKuC44

Obamacare: Built to fail so that it can be replaced with single payer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama never cared about Obamacare. It was a stepping stone. Take note of his speech  first in 2009 then to the AFL-CIO in 2003</p>
<p>Before election 2003:<br />
re single payer: &#8220;we may not get there immediately&#8221;</p>
<p>2009:<br />
&#8220;I have not said I was a single payer supporter&#8221;</p>
<p>Both speeches are on the same video, 2003 follows 2009<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hsqzSKuC44" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hsqzSKuC44</a></p>
<p>Obamacare: Built to fail so that it can be replaced with single payer.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsettled Worker</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133621</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsettled Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your analysis does not lack a depth, but it is a typical example of &quot;count the costs, ignore the benefits fallacy&quot;. I mean there are clear impacts Obamacare will have on the whole economical system [&quot;My only quibble might be that the “716 billion in cuts to Medicare” only refer to changes in the fee schedule&quot; - comment from Bob Hertz], but there are important benefits for the poor sectors of the american society too. The weak parts of the legislature can be repaired and renegotiated with the opposition. The important thing is that it is finally a reality, which means it exists and it provides a service to the american population.

I prefer Obamacare rather than some half way reform that does not resolve anything. It is up to us how will this system work. I´m for the higher taxes for better government services (this topic is well elaborated in &lt;a href=&quot;http://jaybanks.ca/blogroll/2012/11/07/how-to-fight-crisis/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fight against the economical crisis&lt;/a&gt;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analysis does not lack a depth, but it is a typical example of &#8220;count the costs, ignore the benefits fallacy&#8221;. I mean there are clear impacts Obamacare will have on the whole economical system ["My only quibble might be that the “716 billion in cuts to Medicare” only refer to changes in the fee schedule" - comment from Bob Hertz], but there are important benefits for the poor sectors of the american society too. The weak parts of the legislature can be repaired and renegotiated with the opposition. The important thing is that it is finally a reality, which means it exists and it provides a service to the american population.</p>
<p>I prefer Obamacare rather than some half way reform that does not resolve anything. It is up to us how will this system work. I´m for the higher taxes for better government services (this topic is well elaborated in <a href="http://jaybanks.ca/blogroll/2012/11/07/how-to-fight-crisis/" rel="nofollow">fight against the economical crisis</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Hertz</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133614</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Hertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This could be a terrific dialogue, let&#039;s keep it going.

Dr. Goodman has done his usual good job highlighting the internal problems of Obamacare.

My only quibble might be that the &quot;716 billion in cuts to Medicare&quot; only refer to changes in the fee schedule. In the history of Medicare, changes in the fee schedule have very rarely reduced total costs. History shows that  medical providers will adjust the volumes of care. It is also easy for many providers to quietly move over to the kinds of care where fees have NOT been reduced.

Washington bureaucrats are absolutely no match for 500,000 doctors and 5,000 hospitals who have a lot of money at stake in defeating fee controls.

Ron Bachman&#039;s post is a blockbuster in its quiet way. For three years now everyone has been assuming that the private insurance industry was eager to get those extra customers from Obamacare and its mandates.

Ron points out that health insurance is a very unique product, in that some customers are very unprofitable. This is not the same as computers or paper clips. In these industries, you sell to anyone you can, it is all profit if you have costed it right.

But in health insurance, there are customers you do not want. Back in 1994, someone said, &quot;What if you gave a managed care party and no one came.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a terrific dialogue, let&#8217;s keep it going.</p>
<p>Dr. Goodman has done his usual good job highlighting the internal problems of Obamacare.</p>
<p>My only quibble might be that the &#8220;716 billion in cuts to Medicare&#8221; only refer to changes in the fee schedule. In the history of Medicare, changes in the fee schedule have very rarely reduced total costs. History shows that  medical providers will adjust the volumes of care. It is also easy for many providers to quietly move over to the kinds of care where fees have NOT been reduced.</p>
<p>Washington bureaucrats are absolutely no match for 500,000 doctors and 5,000 hospitals who have a lot of money at stake in defeating fee controls.</p>
<p>Ron Bachman&#8217;s post is a blockbuster in its quiet way. For three years now everyone has been assuming that the private insurance industry was eager to get those extra customers from Obamacare and its mandates.</p>
<p>Ron points out that health insurance is a very unique product, in that some customers are very unprofitable. This is not the same as computers or paper clips. In these industries, you sell to anyone you can, it is all profit if you have costed it right.</p>
<p>But in health insurance, there are customers you do not want. Back in 1994, someone said, &#8220;What if you gave a managed care party and no one came.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133605</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why the two parties as well as the media continue ignore the reality that many physicians are already refusing to take medicare patients because of the low reimbursement rates and in some cases are even asking existing patients who become eligible for Medicare to leave.  Both circumstances have happened to me.  Recently, in trying to finding doctors in Las Vegas in contemplation of a move there,  I kept running into rejections because I receive Medicare.  I am required to use Medicare to continue health receiving health benefits from my former employer.  One doctor&#039;s office suggested I try to find a free clinic.  I was silently outraged.  What&#039;s worse is that I&#039;m not poor but Medicare&#039;s policies make me ineligible for quality health care from regular doctors.  Obama&#039;s proposals for continued reduction in reimbursements for Medicare services instead of increases which the majority of Members of Congress of both parties reject on the surface (but the Democrats passed the Affordable Health Care Act adopting these policies).  Obama is killing seniors but he is also killing the entire middle class.  Poor people are getting hugh bonuses as are rich people through less visible federal contracts, loans and grants and sweetheart tax provisions which in the latter case are all supported by both parties. 

The middle class really needs it&#039;s own party since both parties are shafting these people including me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why the two parties as well as the media continue ignore the reality that many physicians are already refusing to take medicare patients because of the low reimbursement rates and in some cases are even asking existing patients who become eligible for Medicare to leave.  Both circumstances have happened to me.  Recently, in trying to finding doctors in Las Vegas in contemplation of a move there,  I kept running into rejections because I receive Medicare.  I am required to use Medicare to continue health receiving health benefits from my former employer.  One doctor&#8217;s office suggested I try to find a free clinic.  I was silently outraged.  What&#8217;s worse is that I&#8217;m not poor but Medicare&#8217;s policies make me ineligible for quality health care from regular doctors.  Obama&#8217;s proposals for continued reduction in reimbursements for Medicare services instead of increases which the majority of Members of Congress of both parties reject on the surface (but the Democrats passed the Affordable Health Care Act adopting these policies).  Obama is killing seniors but he is also killing the entire middle class.  Poor people are getting hugh bonuses as are rich people through less visible federal contracts, loans and grants and sweetheart tax provisions which in the latter case are all supported by both parties. </p>
<p>The middle class really needs it&#8217;s own party since both parties are shafting these people including me</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133380</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have worked in healthcare as a nurse for 34 years and we have always been able to give care to the elderly and poor. For decades politicians had worked to stop what now will be shoved on us. Now we are stuck unless a miracle happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked in healthcare as a nurse for 34 years and we have always been able to give care to the elderly and poor. For decades politicians had worked to stop what now will be shoved on us. Now we are stuck unless a miracle happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133378</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d think that some major fixes will be included in the debt ceiling debate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think that some major fixes will be included in the debt ceiling debate</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/did-the-election-save-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-133371</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re underestimating the power of change that the NCPA can help bring about!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re underestimating the power of change that the NCPA can help bring about!</p>
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