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	<title>Comments on: Getting It All Wrong on Mental Health Parity</title>
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		<title>By: Ron Bachman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Bachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that time has passed on the 1996, 40+ states passing MH parity, and even the broader 2008 legislation what do the nay sayers say?

There is broad recognition that the costs are minimal and studies continue to show untreated depression is the highest corporate cost (direct and indirect)of any expense outside of salaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that time has passed on the 1996, 40+ states passing MH parity, and even the broader 2008 legislation what do the nay sayers say?</p>
<p>There is broad recognition that the costs are minimal and studies continue to show untreated depression is the highest corporate cost (direct and indirect)of any expense outside of salaries.</p>
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		<title>By: John R. Graham</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39737</link>
		<dc:creator>John R. Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, I agree with Dr. Goodman.  I wrote about the issue myself after the bill was passed.  See http://tinyurl.com/59pomm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, I agree with Dr. Goodman.  I wrote about the issue myself after the bill was passed.  See <a href="http://tinyurl.com/59pomm" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/59pomm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39730</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ron, but who, exactly, will determine what mental health is? Should I have to pay to treat whatever the APA votes to include in the DSM no matter how loopy it is? 

I fail to see why people should be forced to pay for coverage for elective mutism, for example, or for selfishness disguised as narcissistic personality disorder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ron, but who, exactly, will determine what mental health is? Should I have to pay to treat whatever the APA votes to include in the DSM no matter how loopy it is? </p>
<p>I fail to see why people should be forced to pay for coverage for elective mutism, for example, or for selfishness disguised as narcissistic personality disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Bachman</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39729</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Bachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parity in MH coverage was needed to have all carriers and employers on the same page. The market is dysfunctinal and was not working for these conditions. The cost is minimal if not negative.  I guess one has to experience the trauma of a mental illness in a family member to appreciate the need for coverage  One wouldn&#039;t expect asth,a not to be covered or follow up care for heart failure. The mind and body can not be separated. Try treating a dabetic without dealing with the underling depression.   

The Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act (The “Wellstone-Domenici Parity Act”), enacted into law on October 3, 2008, will end health insurance benefits inequity between mental health/substance use disorders and medical/surgical benefits for group health plans with more than 50 employees.

Under this new law a group health plan of 50 or more employees that provides both physical and mental health/substance use benefits must ensure that all financial requirements and treatment limitations applicable to mental health/substance use disorder benefits are no more restrictive than those requirements and limitations placed on physical benefits.

This means that equity in coverage will apply to all financial requirements, including lifetime and annual dollar limits, deductibles, copayments, coinsurance, and out-of-pocket expenses, and to all treatment limitations, including frequency of treatment, number of visits, days of coverage and other similar limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parity in MH coverage was needed to have all carriers and employers on the same page. The market is dysfunctinal and was not working for these conditions. The cost is minimal if not negative.  I guess one has to experience the trauma of a mental illness in a family member to appreciate the need for coverage  One wouldn&#8217;t expect asth,a not to be covered or follow up care for heart failure. The mind and body can not be separated. Try treating a dabetic without dealing with the underling depression.   </p>
<p>The Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act (The “Wellstone-Domenici Parity Act”), enacted into law on October 3, 2008, will end health insurance benefits inequity between mental health/substance use disorders and medical/surgical benefits for group health plans with more than 50 employees.</p>
<p>Under this new law a group health plan of 50 or more employees that provides both physical and mental health/substance use benefits must ensure that all financial requirements and treatment limitations applicable to mental health/substance use disorder benefits are no more restrictive than those requirements and limitations placed on physical benefits.</p>
<p>This means that equity in coverage will apply to all financial requirements, including lifetime and annual dollar limits, deductibles, copayments, coinsurance, and out-of-pocket expenses, and to all treatment limitations, including frequency of treatment, number of visits, days of coverage and other similar limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Nevena Puhova</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39728</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevena Puhova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exellent positioln !this law is let people to be free to chooze where to insure themselves, but has restrict up their choice upper !
The law often been offered from some lobby.
The Social law Act in Bulgaria is full of descreapances -it said that  &quot; person without incom  has to unsurence  itself alone by 6% health + 20% /social/pension insurent  across the minimum national wage&quot; ?!
Where money from ? They do not say .Else:People of  the 3-rd party like me have to pay this 26 % insurence across 2 minimal wage a month , no matter if they get profit or not !
And that Act exist since recent  3 years.Before you could not make any individual insurence, nor in fund if do not work .
But the National Insurence Institut  depted everione jobless ,tax it b up ,and  lack these people of unsurence rights up to pay back all missing summ!
The number of such Bulgarian is 1050 000 .Now they simply do not go to doctor, or, if someone does he pay big summ no matter that has been paid 10-20 years before to cut  it.
If someone on prove in hospital they black the relations to pay the dept while they cure him there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exellent positioln !this law is let people to be free to chooze where to insure themselves, but has restrict up their choice upper !<br />
The law often been offered from some lobby.<br />
The Social law Act in Bulgaria is full of descreapances -it said that  &#8221; person without incom  has to unsurence  itself alone by 6% health + 20% /social/pension insurent  across the minimum national wage&#8221; ?!<br />
Where money from ? They do not say .Else:People of  the 3-rd party like me have to pay this 26 % insurence across 2 minimal wage a month , no matter if they get profit or not !<br />
And that Act exist since recent  3 years.Before you could not make any individual insurence, nor in fund if do not work .<br />
But the National Insurence Institut  depted everione jobless ,tax it b up ,and  lack these people of unsurence rights up to pay back all missing summ!<br />
The number of such Bulgarian is 1050 000 .Now they simply do not go to doctor, or, if someone does he pay big summ no matter that has been paid 10-20 years before to cut  it.<br />
If someone on prove in hospital they black the relations to pay the dept while they cure him there.</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Henderson</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39726</link>
		<dc:creator>David R. Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John,

you&#039;re right when you say, &quot;But the employer doesn&#039;t have to cover mental health at all. And if there is coverage, employers can pick and choose which disorders they will cover.&quot;

But surely, it doesn&#039;t follow that &quot;it does the opposite of what good public policy should be all about.&quot;

It&#039;s not the opposite.  The opposite would be mandating the copayments and deductibles and insisting that mental health be covered.  At least this law gives an employer a way to keep health insurance for a whole lot of other things and not cover mental health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right when you say, &#8220;But the employer doesn&#8217;t have to cover mental health at all. And if there is coverage, employers can pick and choose which disorders they will cover.&#8221;</p>
<p>But surely, it doesn&#8217;t follow that &#8220;it does the opposite of what good public policy should be all about.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the opposite.  The opposite would be mandating the copayments and deductibles and insisting that mental health be covered.  At least this law gives an employer a way to keep health insurance for a whole lot of other things and not cover mental health.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greene</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39725</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The alternative John, would have been far worse. The agreement won’t overly burden the carriers. Far worse, I fear may yet be around the corner but we’ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The alternative John, would have been far worse. The agreement won’t overly burden the carriers. Far worse, I fear may yet be around the corner but we’ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Neese</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39724</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Neese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and pushed by a Republican!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and pushed by a Republican!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe S.</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39721</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be an unending conflict in health policy between those who think rationally (the economists) and people who can&#039;t seem to master the syllogism. Sadly,the latter group always seens to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be an unending conflict in health policy between those who think rationally (the economists) and people who can&#8217;t seem to master the syllogism. Sadly,the latter group always seens to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/getting-it-all-wrong-on-mental-health-parity/comment-page-1/#comment-39720</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone considered that the mental health parity mandate could lead to less coverage for mental health than we have today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone considered that the mental health parity mandate could lead to less coverage for mental health than we have today?</p>
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