Comments on: Hits & Misses – 2009/7/8 http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/ Health Care Policy and Reform Insights | NCPA Thu, 24 May 2012 02:53:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bart Ingles http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43755 Bart Ingles Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:49:51 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43755 I think the Democrats have a tiger by the tail, in that having won the Washington sweepstakes they are now responsible for telling everyone how they intend to keep their campaign promises. Hence the shift from "covering everyone" to "cost savings, even if it means rationing." Which partially explains the current obsession with the public option, and why a wild-eyed Paul Krugman is suddenly lashing out at moderate Democrats who are unenthusiastic about the idea. I think it's a mistake to become too fixated on things like the public option. Now should be the time to work with moderates of both parties toward a more practical solution, while the far-left is busy painting itself into a corner. I think the Democrats have a tiger by the tail, in that having won the Washington sweepstakes they are now responsible for telling everyone how they intend to keep their campaign promises. Hence the shift from “covering everyone” to “cost savings, even if it means rationing.” Which partially explains the current obsession with the public option, and why a wild-eyed Paul Krugman is suddenly lashing out at moderate Democrats who are unenthusiastic about the idea.

I think it’s a mistake to become too fixated on things like the public option. Now should be the time to work with moderates of both parties toward a more practical solution, while the far-left is busy painting itself into a corner.

]]> By: hoads http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43753 hoads Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:12:03 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43753 The propaganda masters are out in force priming the public for "cost effective health care". I have read more articles in the last month in mainstream press with "cost effective" in the headline than I have in the last year. It's the "desensitization" phase of getting the public to accept health care rationing. The propaganda masters are out in force priming the public for “cost effective health care”. I have read more articles in the last month in mainstream press with “cost effective” in the headline than I have in the last year. It’s the “desensitization” phase of getting the public to accept health care rationing.

]]> By: Leslie Katzenmeier http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43749 Leslie Katzenmeier Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:10:49 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43749 I think the point is being missed here. This dialog should never equate cost with the value of human life, regardless of anyones best guess of time left or societal usefullness. This is not a new theory and was tried before by the Nazi doctors. It was said in the trial at Nuremburg by the senior Nazi doctor and chief policy maker for Hitler, anyone examining how these horendous "Crimes Against Humanity " could have possibly happened out in front of the Democratic, Christian, Conservative Germans", said it all began with a slight shift in public thinking: This was rhat there was such a thing as "A Life Not Worth Living". First came the mercy killings otherwise known as ""doctor assisted suicide" or "euthanasia", then the handicapped, then anyone non-arian. It is striking to me that in the face of such atrochious current century historical records, we could even utter in our arguments now, that we can not afford to spend money to keep alive those we deem "at the end of their life and consumers of 80% of this nations healthcare resources. Which of you will volunteer your parent or grandparent. At what price are your own family members not worth any expense in the interest of getting "available" technology if it means adding quality to their last days of life or even extra time? If we don't change our terminology and focus, "Never Again" will end up being "Never say never". Respectfully Leslie Katzenmeier I think the point is being missed here. This dialog should never equate cost with the value of human life, regardless of anyones best guess of time left or societal usefullness.
This is not a new theory and was tried before by the Nazi doctors.
It was said in the trial at Nuremburg by the senior Nazi doctor and chief policy maker for Hitler, anyone examining how these horendous “Crimes Against Humanity ” could have possibly happened out in front of the Democratic, Christian, Conservative Germans”, said it all began with a slight shift in public thinking:
This was rhat there was such a thing as “A Life Not Worth Living”.
First came the mercy killings otherwise known as “”doctor assisted suicide” or “euthanasia”, then the handicapped, then anyone non-arian.
It is striking to me that in the face of such atrochious current century historical records, we could even utter in our arguments now, that we can not afford to spend money to keep alive those we deem “at the end of their life and consumers of 80% of this nations healthcare resources.
Which of you will volunteer your parent or grandparent. At what price are your own family members not worth any expense in the interest of getting “available” technology if it means adding quality to their last days of life or even extra time?
If we don’t change our terminology and focus, “Never Again” will end up being “Never say never”.
Respectfully
Leslie Katzenmeier

]]> By: John R. Graham http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43745 John R. Graham Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:56:38 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43745 Professor Mankiw's article is, of course, fine. It's very surprising that the NY Times ran it! However, he gave up ground unnecessarily by surrendering that Medicare's administrative costs are lower than private plans'. It's simply not true, as demonstrated by Ben Zycher and Robert A. Book, among others. Professor Mankiw’s article is, of course, fine. It’s very surprising that the NY Times ran it! However, he gave up ground unnecessarily by surrendering that Medicare’s administrative costs are lower than private plans’. It’s simply not true, as demonstrated by Ben Zycher and Robert A. Book, among others.

]]> By: Bart Ingles http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43747 Bart Ingles Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:50:12 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43747 Kaiser makes good use of e-mail between doctors and patients. But I'm fairly sure the doctors aren't paid per office visit. Kaiser makes good use of e-mail between doctors and patients. But I’m fairly sure the doctors aren’t paid per office visit.

]]> By: Devon Herrick http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43743 Devon Herrick Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:30:20 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43743 I thought the figures cited in the Wall Street Journal article, claiming nearly 4-in-10 doctors communicate with patients online, sounded higher than past surveys. Then I saw the caveat… "So far, the most common digital doctor services are the simplest ones, like paying bills, sending lab results and scheduling appointments." These are mostly things that physician offices were already doing over the phone. However, as more patients begin to control more of their own health care dollars, more physicians will conduct actual medical consultations online rather than requiring patients to schedule office visits for consultations that could have been done by email. I thought the figures cited in the Wall Street Journal article, claiming nearly 4-in-10 doctors communicate with patients online, sounded higher than past surveys. Then I saw the caveat… “So far, the most common digital doctor services are the simplest ones, like paying bills, sending lab results and scheduling appointments.” These are mostly things that physician offices were already doing over the phone.

However, as more patients begin to control more of their own health care dollars, more physicians will conduct actual medical consultations online rather than requiring patients to schedule office visits for consultations that could have been done by email.

]]> By: Ken http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43740 Ken Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:46:55 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43740 I have a sneaking suspicion that under Obama Care we are going to see a lot less end-of-life care. I have a sneaking suspicion that under Obama Care we are going to see a lot less end-of-life care.

]]> By: Joe S. http://healthblog.ncpa.org/hits-misses-200978/comment-page-1/#comment-43736 Joe S. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:22:21 +0000 http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/?p=4172#comment-43736 Your are right. Mankiw's editorial is very good. Your are right. Mankiw’s editorial is very good.

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