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		<dc:creator>facts about the great depression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ralph Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we really need to do is to shop for medical treatment across state lines, as THAT is the basis which insurance pricing is based on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we really need to do is to shop for medical treatment across state lines, as THAT is the basis which insurance pricing is based on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe I saw one post on here dealing with what really drives health care and the health insurance that pays the bills costs up, which are the externalities in the system like non-taxed employor employee health care benefits. Non-taxed employee health care benefits are artificially under priced health insurance that causes over use of health care, because those who have it don&#039;t realize what the true cost of health care or health insurance really is. In the end the over use of health care by those that have these artificially under priced health care insurance policies all accrues to society as a whole in the form of over consumption of a finite resource (health care) driving health care costs up and the insurance that pays for it along with it. All lobbied for, and passed by Congress for the companies that sell health insurance that were  started originally  by doctors and hospitals for doctors and hospitals in the first place. Fix stuff like what I have mentioned above and the health care problem gets fixed, because it&#039;s all about economics and the rules of economics doesn&#039;t allow externalities to exist in a market place without causing a market failure like we are seeing in health care right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe I saw one post on here dealing with what really drives health care and the health insurance that pays the bills costs up, which are the externalities in the system like non-taxed employor employee health care benefits. Non-taxed employee health care benefits are artificially under priced health insurance that causes over use of health care, because those who have it don&#8217;t realize what the true cost of health care or health insurance really is. In the end the over use of health care by those that have these artificially under priced health care insurance policies all accrues to society as a whole in the form of over consumption of a finite resource (health care) driving health care costs up and the insurance that pays for it along with it. All lobbied for, and passed by Congress for the companies that sell health insurance that were  started originally  by doctors and hospitals for doctors and hospitals in the first place. Fix stuff like what I have mentioned above and the health care problem gets fixed, because it&#8217;s all about economics and the rules of economics doesn&#8217;t allow externalities to exist in a market place without causing a market failure like we are seeing in health care right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Morrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Morrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
But proponents of cross-state purchasing should stop over-selling the concept. Premiums will still be based, in large part, on local factors, i.e., the prices set by hospitals, doctors, other providers, labor costs, etc. I&#039;ve actually seen leading proponents on television suggesting that the price available in a low-cost, minimal-regulation state would be available to residents in high-cost areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
But proponents of cross-state purchasing should stop over-selling the concept. Premiums will still be based, in large part, on local factors, i.e., the prices set by hospitals, doctors, other providers, labor costs, etc. I&#8217;ve actually seen leading proponents on television suggesting that the price available in a low-cost, minimal-regulation state would be available to residents in high-cost areas.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to David Rose and John Seater:  
The federal government has authority to regulate interstate commerce.  Just as it can prevent Texas from putting a tariff on Florida oranges, it can stop Texas from interfering between a Texan and a Florida insurer.  


Response to HD Carroll: 
I never said insurers want to do this.  Certainly Blue Cross is against it.  But the purpose of this blog is not to make insurers happy.  I think Parente’s methodology is sound and it is consistent with other studies --- including my own with Gerry Musgrave.  


Response to Don McCanne:  
Let’s say you have diabetes, and your insurance premiums are higher as a result.  Do you want to make them higher still by tacking on mandates for in vitro, acupuncture and marriage counseling? 


Response to Jim Morrison and Bobby Aga:  
Yes, national insurers are in every state and have networks in every state.  Under the interstate purchase, what will be different is the choice of 50 regulatory regimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to David Rose and John Seater:<br />
The federal government has authority to regulate interstate commerce.  Just as it can prevent Texas from putting a tariff on Florida oranges, it can stop Texas from interfering between a Texan and a Florida insurer.  </p>
<p>Response to HD Carroll:<br />
I never said insurers want to do this.  Certainly Blue Cross is against it.  But the purpose of this blog is not to make insurers happy.  I think Parente’s methodology is sound and it is consistent with other studies &#8212; including my own with Gerry Musgrave.  </p>
<p>Response to Don McCanne:<br />
Let’s say you have diabetes, and your insurance premiums are higher as a result.  Do you want to make them higher still by tacking on mandates for in vitro, acupuncture and marriage counseling? </p>
<p>Response to Jim Morrison and Bobby Aga:<br />
Yes, national insurers are in every state and have networks in every state.  Under the interstate purchase, what will be different is the choice of 50 regulatory regimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am against purchasing insurance across state lines. The first reason is you have just open the door for the Federal government to use &quot;Interstate Commerce&quot; excuse to regulate.  They currently do not have jurisdiction. Second, any insurance actuary will tell you insurance rates are based on where you live and the costs in that area. You will still have rates based on where you live and what the cost of healthcare is in your area. Third, where is your local consumer protection &amp; service? Federal bureacrat can and does not provide protection Service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am against purchasing insurance across state lines. The first reason is you have just open the door for the Federal government to use &#8220;Interstate Commerce&#8221; excuse to regulate.  They currently do not have jurisdiction. Second, any insurance actuary will tell you insurance rates are based on where you live and the costs in that area. You will still have rates based on where you live and what the cost of healthcare is in your area. Third, where is your local consumer protection &amp; service? Federal bureacrat can and does not provide protection Service?</p>
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		<title>By: David C. Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C. Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

Your posting today reminded me of a question that I have wanted to ask you for some time but that I never think of when I am near a computer. 

The idea of “allowing people to buy insurance across state lines” sounds reasonable on its face, of course, but doesn’t it fly in the face of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution? If one argues that it doesn’t because of the commerce clause, wouldn’t that require one to argue that existing state insurance regulations are unconstitutional?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Your posting today reminded me of a question that I have wanted to ask you for some time but that I never think of when I am near a computer. </p>
<p>The idea of “allowing people to buy insurance across state lines” sounds reasonable on its face, of course, but doesn’t it fly in the face of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution? If one argues that it doesn’t because of the commerce clause, wouldn’t that require one to argue that existing state insurance regulations are unconstitutional?</p>
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		<title>By: HD Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>HD Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Linda Gorman post - I don&#039;t disagree that 20% is enough to get someone who already has insurance to switch, or certainly consider switching even with a difference in coverage, and that there would likely be a robust &quot;churn&quot; across state lines, and competition for existing bodies/small groups.  However, most of those people without insurance to start with can&#039;t/won&#039;t afford $4,800 a year any more than $6,000 a year.  Perhaps I have become too cynical in dealing with employers and individuals who say that &quot;Boy, if those rates were just 20% lower, I would buy insurance for my employees,&quot; and then when you creatively come up with something that works, and is not merely mini-med, and they are faced with writing the check, they say &quot;Well, I didn&#039;t really mean it.&quot;  When it comes to intangibles such as insurance, most people simply don&#039;t understand the value of &quot;protection&quot; as opposed to simply &quot;using&quot; the insurance, meaning &quot;get money back,&quot; and so really don&#039;t want to pay anything for it.  Besides, if they wait long enough, the government will just provide it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Linda Gorman post &#8211; I don&#8217;t disagree that 20% is enough to get someone who already has insurance to switch, or certainly consider switching even with a difference in coverage, and that there would likely be a robust &#8220;churn&#8221; across state lines, and competition for existing bodies/small groups.  However, most of those people without insurance to start with can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t afford $4,800 a year any more than $6,000 a year.  Perhaps I have become too cynical in dealing with employers and individuals who say that &#8220;Boy, if those rates were just 20% lower, I would buy insurance for my employees,&#8221; and then when you creatively come up with something that works, and is not merely mini-med, and they are faced with writing the check, they say &#8220;Well, I didn&#8217;t really mean it.&#8221;  When it comes to intangibles such as insurance, most people simply don&#8217;t understand the value of &#8220;protection&#8221; as opposed to simply &#8220;using&#8221; the insurance, meaning &#8220;get money back,&#8221; and so really don&#8217;t want to pay anything for it.  Besides, if they wait long enough, the government will just provide it, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ewin, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ewin, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the stats for primary care. It should be a wake up call to all of us.

&quot;The number of students entering family medicine residency training has fallen from a high of 3,293 in 1998 to 1,172 in 2008, according to National Residency Matching Program data. Fifty-five family medicine residency programs have closed since 2000, while only 28 programs have opened.[18]

In 2006, when the nation had 100,431 family physicians, a workforce report by the American Academy of Family Physicians indicated the United States would need 139,531 family physicians by 2020 to meet the need for primary medical care. To reach that figure 4,439 family physicians must complete their residencies each year, but currently the nation is attracting only half the number of future family physicians that we will need.[19]

The waning interest in family medicine is likely due to several factors, including the lesser prestige associated with the specialty, the lesser pay, and the increasingly frustrating practice environment in the U.S. Salaries for family physicians in the United States are respectable but lower than average for physicians, with the average being $129,295 [20] and ranging from $110,000 to $204,000[21], but when faced with debt from medical school, most medical students are opting for the higher paying specialties&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the stats for primary care. It should be a wake up call to all of us.</p>
<p>&#8220;The number of students entering family medicine residency training has fallen from a high of 3,293 in 1998 to 1,172 in 2008, according to National Residency Matching Program data. Fifty-five family medicine residency programs have closed since 2000, while only 28 programs have opened.[18]</p>
<p>In 2006, when the nation had 100,431 family physicians, a workforce report by the American Academy of Family Physicians indicated the United States would need 139,531 family physicians by 2020 to meet the need for primary medical care. To reach that figure 4,439 family physicians must complete their residencies each year, but currently the nation is attracting only half the number of future family physicians that we will need.[19]</p>
<p>The waning interest in family medicine is likely due to several factors, including the lesser prestige associated with the specialty, the lesser pay, and the increasingly frustrating practice environment in the U.S. Salaries for family physicians in the United States are respectable but lower than average for physicians, with the average being $129,295 [20] and ranging from $110,000 to $204,000[21], but when faced with debt from medical school, most medical students are opting for the higher paying specialties&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ewin, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ewin, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HD,
good comments.
Affordability:  Determined by the consumer much like you decide whether to go to McDonalds or Morton&#039;s steak house for dinner. Most &quot;Concierge/direct practices&quot; charge from $100-150/month Cheaper than cigarettes/McDonald&#039;s). It ain&#039;t free and neither is food. I&#039;ve seen as high as $1000/month.

Access: Our practices are small (usually ~4-600 patients). We can only see so many patients and do a good job. 24/7 access/txt/email/no waiting) eg: We discharged today an 85 yo diabetes, coronary heart disease, a pacemaker and constive heart failure that I started on an insulin drip last week. He was on a cruise ship in the middle of the Indian Ocean and I worked with the Norwegian surgeon cruise ship Doc to safely bring him back to Fort Worth. I charge him $167/month. That&#039;s healthcare for a reasonable price.
I bet Senator Hill would love to give health stamps that the Medicaid patients can cash in at a direct practice and use Medicaid for what it&#039;s really for..Catastrophies. Then we work for the patient, and not the government. We save Medicaid, Medicare  and  Don&#039;t you think a family with an Iraq War veteran with numerous medical and surgical problems would love to pay a doctor directly to guide them through the maze of Walter Reed?

Resource Allocation: Wake up...Virtually no med students are going into primary care. My son-in-law is a 4th year med student at Southwestern in Dallas.
He thinks there are only 4 or five classmates going into primary care. Baylor in Houston just closed their family practice program. 

Lastly, we take all comers regardless. Why deal with &quot;change in health status&quot; when what we love to do is patient care. And... many of my patients are alcoholics, drug abusers...etc and don&#039;t have any insurance...and most take care of some patients for free but b/c we can...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HD,<br />
good comments.<br />
Affordability:  Determined by the consumer much like you decide whether to go to McDonalds or Morton&#8217;s steak house for dinner. Most &#8220;Concierge/direct practices&#8221; charge from $100-150/month Cheaper than cigarettes/McDonald&#8217;s). It ain&#8217;t free and neither is food. I&#8217;ve seen as high as $1000/month.</p>
<p>Access: Our practices are small (usually ~4-600 patients). We can only see so many patients and do a good job. 24/7 access/txt/email/no waiting) eg: We discharged today an 85 yo diabetes, coronary heart disease, a pacemaker and constive heart failure that I started on an insulin drip last week. He was on a cruise ship in the middle of the Indian Ocean and I worked with the Norwegian surgeon cruise ship Doc to safely bring him back to Fort Worth. I charge him $167/month. That&#8217;s healthcare for a reasonable price.<br />
I bet Senator Hill would love to give health stamps that the Medicaid patients can cash in at a direct practice and use Medicaid for what it&#8217;s really for..Catastrophies. Then we work for the patient, and not the government. We save Medicaid, Medicare  and  Don&#8217;t you think a family with an Iraq War veteran with numerous medical and surgical problems would love to pay a doctor directly to guide them through the maze of Walter Reed?</p>
<p>Resource Allocation: Wake up&#8230;Virtually no med students are going into primary care. My son-in-law is a 4th year med student at Southwestern in Dallas.<br />
He thinks there are only 4 or five classmates going into primary care. Baylor in Houston just closed their family practice program. </p>
<p>Lastly, we take all comers regardless. Why deal with &#8220;change in health status&#8221; when what we love to do is patient care. And&#8230; many of my patients are alcoholics, drug abusers&#8230;etc and don&#8217;t have any insurance&#8230;and most take care of some patients for free but b/c we can&#8230;</p>
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