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		<title>By: Don Levit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Levit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Really Broken?:
I agree with much of what you so powerfully expressed.
We all have so many self destructive tendencies.
It is hard to believe that health insurance could be hazardous to our health, but you may be on to something here.
I, too, think this bottomless well of insurance should be curtailed.
In fact, in my opinion, the payout should be in direct relation to one&#039;s contributions, less claims made.
Possibly a multiple of 10 or 20 times this figure.
That way, the person is benefiting many times over what he has contributed, which is the beautiful concept of the community helping the individual.
In addition, the savings aspect you mentioned is very important, for pay-as-you-go is not the way to address health care expenses.
Medicare is a great warning of what not to do, for the &quot;savings&quot; have been squandered in lieu of other, current governmental expenses.

There definitely is a socialistic concept to insurance, which is okay, as long as it is curtailed.
In that way, the individual is encouraged to take the bull by the horns, as you suggest, rather than simply succumbing to the bull.
I&#039;m with you and my Jewish colleagues:  &quot;Choose Life.&quot;
Shalom,
Don Levit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s Really Broken?:<br />
I agree with much of what you so powerfully expressed.<br />
We all have so many self destructive tendencies.<br />
It is hard to believe that health insurance could be hazardous to our health, but you may be on to something here.<br />
I, too, think this bottomless well of insurance should be curtailed.<br />
In fact, in my opinion, the payout should be in direct relation to one&#8217;s contributions, less claims made.<br />
Possibly a multiple of 10 or 20 times this figure.<br />
That way, the person is benefiting many times over what he has contributed, which is the beautiful concept of the community helping the individual.<br />
In addition, the savings aspect you mentioned is very important, for pay-as-you-go is not the way to address health care expenses.<br />
Medicare is a great warning of what not to do, for the &#8220;savings&#8221; have been squandered in lieu of other, current governmental expenses.</p>
<p>There definitely is a socialistic concept to insurance, which is okay, as long as it is curtailed.<br />
In that way, the individual is encouraged to take the bull by the horns, as you suggest, rather than simply succumbing to the bull.<br />
I&#8217;m with you and my Jewish colleagues:  &#8220;Choose Life.&#8221;<br />
Shalom,<br />
Don Levit</p>
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		<title>By: What's Really Broken?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What's Really Broken?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either I am a genius or clueless; either may explain that no one has responded to my thoughts about health care INSURANCE and its contribution to HIGH COST of HEALTH CARE, LACK of RESPONSIBILITY for ONE&#039;S HEALTH, and HEALTH CARE @ ANY COST ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY.  I&#039;ve posted the following on another Health Alert, Harry Reid&#039;s comment regarding insurance industry:

The ACTUAL problem is the COST of HEALTH CARE.  Fix THAT and Health Care is available to all.  The ANSWERS must attack the current conditions AFFECTING the HEALTH CARE COST (i.e. MARKET), as well as our own beliefs about Health, Health Care, personal responsibility for one’s health.  The ANSWERS will take a lot more ENERGY, TIME, EFFORT than Obama&#039;s Robin Hood approach, which is EASY, IMMORAL, and quite frankly, DIVISIVE (to our citizenry).  Those who oppose the immorality of TAKE-and-GIVE socialistic policy are cast as DARK / GREEDY / UNCARING.  Those who answer (EVERY HEART’S) desire to see every ill person made well – IGNORING the damning evidence of Federal Government programs &amp; DAMNING the consequences of  expanding those programs - cast themselves as CARING and therefore SUPERIOR.  Unfortunately, money that grows on trees is worthless – and destructive.  We cannot fix this problem by stealing or printing money!  

I myself believe that insurance is one of the culprits, if not the most significant culprit.  Not because insurance companies are “greedy,” however.  I believe that insurance elevates the cost of health care in an insidious way - by its very nature.  By creating this huge pool of $ controlled by a third party (the insurance company), the commercial relationship between the seller (doctor) and buyer (patient) is OBLITERATED.  Americans complain about the monthly premium costs, but we pay them gratefully because we know that a hospital stay (the actual HEALTH CARE COST) can easily amount to $100,000.  Do I, the patient, really care how much the doctor charges if I pay only a smidgeon of it?  NO.  You see?  The two-party commercial relationship doesn’t exist in Health Care.  Where else does this occur in our economic system?   Health Care Insurance is itself a socialist system!  And its reimbursement standards are based on Medicare, another socialistic system!  

The only way for Health Care Costs to return to a seller-buyer regulated market is to totally rethink our approach to disease and Health Care.  MOST disease and illness are due to behaviors and lifestyles that WE CHOOSE.  Hmmmm…  think about that.  WE create our own NEED for Health Care to a very large degree.   Then WE think we have a RIGHT to be TREATED for those conditions that WE have SELF-IMPOSED (again, to a large degree) – no matter the cost, no matter the cost to whom.   We drink, do drugs, smoke, choose crap instead of real food; we don’t exercise, don’t sleep enough.  

Now:  WHAT IF we knew there were no security blanket – no health care insurance $ to unethically depend on (again, I’m speaking with regard to self-imposed poor health due to our own personal choices)?  How would knowing that health care insurance $ weren’t available to us for those self-imposed diseases affect our behaviors and lifestyle choices?   

WHAT IF the government demanded that we contribute to a savings plan of our own choice (not controlled by the government) for our own medical care expenses?  And providers did not have access to a bottomless well of (insurance) $?  How would this change – radically – the cost of health care?   

Millions of us willingly take on a 5-6 year car note to drive that dream car; we buy a house on a 20 or 30 yr mortgage...  the actual cost to us for that dream car and house is WAY above the sticker price - thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars!  We don’t question this wasteful use of our hard-earned $ and yet blanche at the thought of paying thousands of dollars to stay healthy and alive – we have been conditioned to entitlement thanks to Medicare and health care insurance!

We must remember that we are human beings – we love the easy way out, the way that costs us little or nothing in self-control and self-accountability.  This road leads to surrender of freedom as we grab the freedom from others to meet our needs.

Our country did not become great and wonderful because its founders took the easy way out.  On the contrary.  We have become soft and spoiled and self-seeking.  We want security instead of LIFE.  I’m reminded of a wonderful film, “Then She Found Me.”  Helen Hunt plays a woman who is raised Jewish by her adoptive parents. In the beginning of the move, amidst the strains of lovely Klezmer music, Helen Hunt (main character) narrates a Jewish story about a father who is teaching his son to have more courage and be less afraid. “He puts his son on the second step and says, ‘Jump and I’ll catch you.’ “ Then on the third step and so on. She continues the story, “The boy jumped from a very high step – but this time, the father stepped back and the boy fell flat on his face. He picked himself up, bleeding and crying and his father said to him, ‘That’ll teach you.’“
At first I was appalled by this story and didn’t understand it.  At the end of the film, however, Helen repeats the story and adds a coda. “When he [the father] caught him [the son], he [the son] was filled with love, and when he [the father] didn’t [catch the son], he [the son] was filled with something else, something more – LIFE. Amen!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either I am a genius or clueless; either may explain that no one has responded to my thoughts about health care INSURANCE and its contribution to HIGH COST of HEALTH CARE, LACK of RESPONSIBILITY for ONE&#8217;S HEALTH, and HEALTH CARE @ ANY COST ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY.  I&#8217;ve posted the following on another Health Alert, Harry Reid&#8217;s comment regarding insurance industry:</p>
<p>The ACTUAL problem is the COST of HEALTH CARE.  Fix THAT and Health Care is available to all.  The ANSWERS must attack the current conditions AFFECTING the HEALTH CARE COST (i.e. MARKET), as well as our own beliefs about Health, Health Care, personal responsibility for one’s health.  The ANSWERS will take a lot more ENERGY, TIME, EFFORT than Obama&#8217;s Robin Hood approach, which is EASY, IMMORAL, and quite frankly, DIVISIVE (to our citizenry).  Those who oppose the immorality of TAKE-and-GIVE socialistic policy are cast as DARK / GREEDY / UNCARING.  Those who answer (EVERY HEART’S) desire to see every ill person made well – IGNORING the damning evidence of Federal Government programs &amp; DAMNING the consequences of  expanding those programs &#8211; cast themselves as CARING and therefore SUPERIOR.  Unfortunately, money that grows on trees is worthless – and destructive.  We cannot fix this problem by stealing or printing money!  </p>
<p>I myself believe that insurance is one of the culprits, if not the most significant culprit.  Not because insurance companies are “greedy,” however.  I believe that insurance elevates the cost of health care in an insidious way &#8211; by its very nature.  By creating this huge pool of $ controlled by a third party (the insurance company), the commercial relationship between the seller (doctor) and buyer (patient) is OBLITERATED.  Americans complain about the monthly premium costs, but we pay them gratefully because we know that a hospital stay (the actual HEALTH CARE COST) can easily amount to $100,000.  Do I, the patient, really care how much the doctor charges if I pay only a smidgeon of it?  NO.  You see?  The two-party commercial relationship doesn’t exist in Health Care.  Where else does this occur in our economic system?   Health Care Insurance is itself a socialist system!  And its reimbursement standards are based on Medicare, another socialistic system!  </p>
<p>The only way for Health Care Costs to return to a seller-buyer regulated market is to totally rethink our approach to disease and Health Care.  MOST disease and illness are due to behaviors and lifestyles that WE CHOOSE.  Hmmmm…  think about that.  WE create our own NEED for Health Care to a very large degree.   Then WE think we have a RIGHT to be TREATED for those conditions that WE have SELF-IMPOSED (again, to a large degree) – no matter the cost, no matter the cost to whom.   We drink, do drugs, smoke, choose crap instead of real food; we don’t exercise, don’t sleep enough.  </p>
<p>Now:  WHAT IF we knew there were no security blanket – no health care insurance $ to unethically depend on (again, I’m speaking with regard to self-imposed poor health due to our own personal choices)?  How would knowing that health care insurance $ weren’t available to us for those self-imposed diseases affect our behaviors and lifestyle choices?   </p>
<p>WHAT IF the government demanded that we contribute to a savings plan of our own choice (not controlled by the government) for our own medical care expenses?  And providers did not have access to a bottomless well of (insurance) $?  How would this change – radically – the cost of health care?   </p>
<p>Millions of us willingly take on a 5-6 year car note to drive that dream car; we buy a house on a 20 or 30 yr mortgage&#8230;  the actual cost to us for that dream car and house is WAY above the sticker price &#8211; thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars!  We don’t question this wasteful use of our hard-earned $ and yet blanche at the thought of paying thousands of dollars to stay healthy and alive – we have been conditioned to entitlement thanks to Medicare and health care insurance!</p>
<p>We must remember that we are human beings – we love the easy way out, the way that costs us little or nothing in self-control and self-accountability.  This road leads to surrender of freedom as we grab the freedom from others to meet our needs.</p>
<p>Our country did not become great and wonderful because its founders took the easy way out.  On the contrary.  We have become soft and spoiled and self-seeking.  We want security instead of LIFE.  I’m reminded of a wonderful film, “Then She Found Me.”  Helen Hunt plays a woman who is raised Jewish by her adoptive parents. In the beginning of the move, amidst the strains of lovely Klezmer music, Helen Hunt (main character) narrates a Jewish story about a father who is teaching his son to have more courage and be less afraid. “He puts his son on the second step and says, ‘Jump and I’ll catch you.’ “ Then on the third step and so on. She continues the story, “The boy jumped from a very high step – but this time, the father stepped back and the boy fell flat on his face. He picked himself up, bleeding and crying and his father said to him, ‘That’ll teach you.’“<br />
At first I was appalled by this story and didn’t understand it.  At the end of the film, however, Helen repeats the story and adds a coda. “When he [the father] caught him [the son], he [the son] was filled with love, and when he [the father] didn’t [catch the son], he [the son] was filled with something else, something more – LIFE. Amen!”</p>
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		<title>By: Don Levit</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47745</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Levit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:
Speaking of stupidity, do you know the difference between genius and stupidity?
Genius has its limits.
Don Levit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:<br />
Speaking of stupidity, do you know the difference between genius and stupidity?<br />
Genius has its limits.<br />
Don Levit</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Fiedler</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47741</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Fiedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Few.  The Dumb.  The American Policticians.  Are the dumbest people in our country running it now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Few.  The Dumb.  The American Policticians.  Are the dumbest people in our country running it now?</p>
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		<title>By: David Norwood</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47740</link>
		<dc:creator>David Norwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
You must stop this junk from becoming law...
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
You must stop this junk from becoming law&#8230;<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kramer</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47739</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There might be an excuse for ignorance, but there is no excuse for stupidity. The first is genetic, the latter is not defensible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There might be an excuse for ignorance, but there is no excuse for stupidity. The first is genetic, the latter is not defensible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Michaud</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47708</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice Michaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
Thanks for this look into the future, you have aptly defined the momentum.
It will be the underground economy and contracted workers that will deny the over powered government elite sustenance.  Instead of hoping for economic recovery, we will be engaged in a renaissance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Thanks for this look into the future, you have aptly defined the momentum.<br />
It will be the underground economy and contracted workers that will deny the over powered government elite sustenance.  Instead of hoping for economic recovery, we will be engaged in a renaissance.</p>
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		<title>By: beverly</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47705</link>
		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis! Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis! Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline Seeber</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47701</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline Seeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see this plan shoved down the very same throats of the bureaucrats who are forcing us to use it, but alas, those politicians don&#039;t pay for health insurance.  Just make them, like we will have to.  See if they can live with such atrocious laws that are suppose to be made &quot;by the people and for the people.&quot; The lead bureaucrats (and we all know who they are) are just using the president like a puppet.  I am not a Democrat, nor did I vote for any Democrats, but would if I felt any of them had a brain and REALLY cared about this country and not their pockets first.  Those in office now are destroying this country.  I am very afraid for this country as we used to know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see this plan shoved down the very same throats of the bureaucrats who are forcing us to use it, but alas, those politicians don&#8217;t pay for health insurance.  Just make them, like we will have to.  See if they can live with such atrocious laws that are suppose to be made &#8220;by the people and for the people.&#8221; The lead bureaucrats (and we all know who they are) are just using the president like a puppet.  I am not a Democrat, nor did I vote for any Democrats, but would if I felt any of them had a brain and REALLY cared about this country and not their pockets first.  Those in office now are destroying this country.  I am very afraid for this country as we used to know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil H.</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/the-baucus-bill-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-47700</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly awful. I can&#039;t believe something like this could actually pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly awful. I can&#8217;t believe something like this could actually pass.</p>
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