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	<title>Comments on: Where are the Conservative Ideas on Health Reform? All Over the Map.</title>
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		<title>By: Ron Bachman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Bachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missed My Work from CHT:

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A 21st Century Intelligent Healthcare Solution to 
Creating a 300 Million Payer System

Introduction

A 21st Century Intelligent Healthcare Solution to health and healthcare transformation requires establishing a vision and a process for change that wins over the hearts and minds of Americans with a message that this is a problem that can be solved with American ingenuity and entrepreneurship in a uniquely American way.  This is a values issue where lives and the health of citizens are in danger.  Family security and financial stability are at risk. Americans must demand a change from a world that does not work to a world that does work. Today we have the worst of all worlds.  We have a costly government healthcare system that locks citizens into restrictive limited choices, and a private market that is overburdened with state and federal laws and regulations.

Change must include things that are real, tangible, and results oriented for real people with real health, healthcare, and health insurance problems.  Solutions must be based on American values of financial freedom, personal responsibility, individual ownership, and choice.  There are two camps of thought for our future.  We will either move to a Washington-based insurance system or we will develop expanded market-based insurance solutions.  Unless the free-market is given more flexibility to meet this problem, citizens will undoubtedly turn to the federal and state governments to “solve the crisis.”</description>
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<p>A 21st Century Intelligent Healthcare Solution to<br />
Creating a 300 Million Payer System</p>
<p>Introduction</p>
<p>A 21st Century Intelligent Healthcare Solution to health and healthcare transformation requires establishing a vision and a process for change that wins over the hearts and minds of Americans with a message that this is a problem that can be solved with American ingenuity and entrepreneurship in a uniquely American way.  This is a values issue where lives and the health of citizens are in danger.  Family security and financial stability are at risk. Americans must demand a change from a world that does not work to a world that does work. Today we have the worst of all worlds.  We have a costly government healthcare system that locks citizens into restrictive limited choices, and a private market that is overburdened with state and federal laws and regulations.</p>
<p>Change must include things that are real, tangible, and results oriented for real people with real health, healthcare, and health insurance problems.  Solutions must be based on American values of financial freedom, personal responsibility, individual ownership, and choice.  There are two camps of thought for our future.  We will either move to a Washington-based insurance system or we will develop expanded market-based insurance solutions.  Unless the free-market is given more flexibility to meet this problem, citizens will undoubtedly turn to the federal and state governments to “solve the crisis.”</p>
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		<title>By: Beyond the Senate Debate &#8211; Blog Watch</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/where-are-the-conservative-ideas-on-health-reform-all-over-the-map/comment-page-1/#comment-50078</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond the Senate Debate &#8211; Blog Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Goodman responds to criticism of right-leaning health policy ideas, noting, &#8220;there is probably no other public policy area on which there is so much diversity of right-of-center opinion than there is right now on health policy.&#8221; (emphasis his)  He lists 12 different right-leaning proposals, saying the main area of agreement is Health Savings Accounts. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Goodman responds to criticism of right-leaning health policy ideas, noting, &#8220;there is probably no other public policy area on which there is so much diversity of right-of-center opinion than there is right now on health policy.&#8221; (emphasis his)  He lists 12 different right-leaning proposals, saying the main area of agreement is Health Savings Accounts. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don Levit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Levit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bart:
My take on the tax exclusion is that health insurance is designed for those with a lot of assets.
People who have a net worth of $1million need $1million in coverage.
Those with a net worth of $50,000 can probably afford only $50,000 of coverage, or maybe a small multiple thereof.
The primary motivation for health insurance, at least for smaller businesses, is to protect the owner&#039;s assets.
Having more employees join in simply lowers the premiums for all, particularly the owner.
Don Levit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart:<br />
My take on the tax exclusion is that health insurance is designed for those with a lot of assets.<br />
People who have a net worth of $1million need $1million in coverage.<br />
Those with a net worth of $50,000 can probably afford only $50,000 of coverage, or maybe a small multiple thereof.<br />
The primary motivation for health insurance, at least for smaller businesses, is to protect the owner&#8217;s assets.<br />
Having more employees join in simply lowers the premiums for all, particularly the owner.<br />
Don Levit</p>
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		<title>By: Bart I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attribute #6 should have read &quot;In addition to 5...&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Bart I.</title>
		<link>http://healthblog.ncpa.org/where-are-the-conservative-ideas-on-health-reform-all-over-the-map/comment-page-1/#comment-50025</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video should have been Springsteen&#039;s &quot;57 channels and nothing on.&quot;

But at least many of the proposals more-or-less acknowledge the importance of addressing the tax code.  A more thorough analysis of what they&#039;re trying to reform would have been nice though.

For starters, how about listing some attributes of the employer tax exclusion:

1. The tax incentive to overconsume is fairly high for those in the higher tax brackets, because the size of the tax benefit happens to be an accident of the employee&#039;s tax bracket.
2. The tax exclusion is regressive, providing next to nothing for low-income employees, again because the tax break is tied to the employee&#039;s tax bracket.
3. The tax exclusion discriminates against individuals who pay for identical (e.g. COBRA) or nearly identical (e.g. HIPAA or continuation) coverage themselves.
4. The tax exclusion differentiates between group coverage and individually-rated insurance.
5. The benefit of the tax exclusion is based on the size of the insurance premium (not a flat amount, in other words).
6. In addition to 4, the tax exclusion is open-ended and extends to any size insurance premium.

To me, attributes 1-3 are inexcusable.  4-6 are defensible, or at least arguable to the extent that defenders would likely stymie any attempt to reform the tax code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video should have been Springsteen&#8217;s &#8220;57 channels and nothing on.&#8221;</p>
<p>But at least many of the proposals more-or-less acknowledge the importance of addressing the tax code.  A more thorough analysis of what they&#8217;re trying to reform would have been nice though.</p>
<p>For starters, how about listing some attributes of the employer tax exclusion:</p>
<p>1. The tax incentive to overconsume is fairly high for those in the higher tax brackets, because the size of the tax benefit happens to be an accident of the employee&#8217;s tax bracket.<br />
2. The tax exclusion is regressive, providing next to nothing for low-income employees, again because the tax break is tied to the employee&#8217;s tax bracket.<br />
3. The tax exclusion discriminates against individuals who pay for identical (e.g. COBRA) or nearly identical (e.g. HIPAA or continuation) coverage themselves.<br />
4. The tax exclusion differentiates between group coverage and individually-rated insurance.<br />
5. The benefit of the tax exclusion is based on the size of the insurance premium (not a flat amount, in other words).<br />
6. In addition to 4, the tax exclusion is open-ended and extends to any size insurance premium.</p>
<p>To me, attributes 1-3 are inexcusable.  4-6 are defensible, or at least arguable to the extent that defenders would likely stymie any attempt to reform the tax code.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Fiedler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennie Fiedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that in 18th century England (and maybe America), people sought the skills of their local barber if they were sick or injured?  I guess you could get a haircut, shave and bullet removed all at once!  Hmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that in 18th century England (and maybe America), people sought the skills of their local barber if they were sick or injured?  I guess you could get a haircut, shave and bullet removed all at once!  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Holt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Gail&#039;s Christmas Card from the RNC will be lost in the mail after that comment!

Unfortunately, it&#039;s true as Stan says. With 12 years in charge of Congress and 6 in charge of everything, the Republicans did nothing (apart from smothering Medicare drug coverage in a bunch of corporate welfare) and by their actions showed that they don&#039;t give a rats arse about the uninsured, or the fundamental problems in the system.

Many of us who won;t make any &quot;free-marketeer&quot; idea lists aren&#039;t delighted with what the Democrats are doing, But at least they&#039;re doing something.

And much as I love Michael Cannon, his book has 3 whole lines about the problems of spending past the deductible. Which is somewhat representative of the overall level of ideas about systemic change from this list.

But have fun complaining guys. The more sensible ones among you will move over to a topic Republicans care about (moose hunting?) by the time they get their next shot at government--which might come rather sooner than the country or the world needs--given how well they did last time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Gail&#8217;s Christmas Card from the RNC will be lost in the mail after that comment!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s true as Stan says. With 12 years in charge of Congress and 6 in charge of everything, the Republicans did nothing (apart from smothering Medicare drug coverage in a bunch of corporate welfare) and by their actions showed that they don&#8217;t give a rats arse about the uninsured, or the fundamental problems in the system.</p>
<p>Many of us who won;t make any &#8220;free-marketeer&#8221; idea lists aren&#8217;t delighted with what the Democrats are doing, But at least they&#8217;re doing something.</p>
<p>And much as I love Michael Cannon, his book has 3 whole lines about the problems of spending past the deductible. Which is somewhat representative of the overall level of ideas about systemic change from this list.</p>
<p>But have fun complaining guys. The more sensible ones among you will move over to a topic Republicans care about (moose hunting?) by the time they get their next shot at government&#8211;which might come rather sooner than the country or the world needs&#8211;given how well they did last time.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the plugs.</description>
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		<title>By: Gail Wilensky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail Wilensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that Republicans have not lacked ideas. Unfortunately the elected politicians have never pursued their ideas with the single-minded passion and constancy of the Democrats which is clearly what&#039;s needed to get something significant passed. The main contribution Republicans have made in the last 20 years they controlled the executive branch is to pass the largest unfunded entitlement expansion in history...
Some legacy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that Republicans have not lacked ideas. Unfortunately the elected politicians have never pursued their ideas with the single-minded passion and constancy of the Democrats which is clearly what&#8217;s needed to get something significant passed. The main contribution Republicans have made in the last 20 years they controlled the executive branch is to pass the largest unfunded entitlement expansion in history&#8230;<br />
Some legacy!</p>
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		<title>By: wanda dickinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanda dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The House and Senate better get it right this time. The American people don&#039;t want any part of what Capital Hill want! No Health Care (murder) plan ; not today, not tomorrow,never. W e have been so badly treated thus far by the liberal leftists, that I and many others will rebel. Why did we attend tea parties all spring,summer and fall if Congress didn&#039;t listen? Congress and the President serve at the will of the population, not just a chosen few. NO New HEALTH PLAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The House and Senate better get it right this time. The American people don&#8217;t want any part of what Capital Hill want! No Health Care (murder) plan ; not today, not tomorrow,never. W e have been so badly treated thus far by the liberal leftists, that I and many others will rebel. Why did we attend tea parties all spring,summer and fall if Congress didn&#8217;t listen? Congress and the President serve at the will of the population, not just a chosen few. NO New HEALTH PLAN!</p>
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